Mary Dahl Oral History Interview

Oral history interview of Mary Dahl by Marilyn Warenski about status of women in Mormon culture.

trTIl.P STATF PL Tr"PI('n rr.IFTV ______________ MW: IitTERVIElEE Mary Dahl P"TERVIEUER Marilyn Warinski SUEJECT Status DATE February 10, TnflJ,'SCRI BER Jeanne D/\TE August 28, This is of Status at Devonshire 1368 1978. I interview by having you Well, I until the born was time in that public grade school, Cornell the OphthalmOlogy the years, Dahl on Culture. tell Utah. The Mary, let's yourself, about us house Mary's at are City, Lake Salt We the of subject the Marilyn Warinski. am went the City in 1936, medical to away junior high school, of City, in and Utah, and took a Chicago, University of the University then our family staff and I University at Lake Salt University in New York Northwestern on 1978 your date is begin this background, education. your attended in Drive Culture Mormon 1978 the Mormon February 10, and MD: in Women the Pr(\;0ct Heyer interview with Mary an in of Women <'.H.OO-626 of of moved and school, High East then lived and went to in Salt Lake I went through and School medical school rotating internship at residency in and then Illinois. Illinois back to a Followina as Salt an that instructor Lake. I was I at staved for two married MARY 2 DAHL the week that my husband MW: And husband's MD: Douglas Dahl. MW: Doug went MD: Northwestern. of your were for He during the year oldest which of that were going is Lake from New York time we Salt from he Is we were away in to be in the twelve School, Chicago, to Utah and Navy. next week, University the so that when then internhip·and We well? as Attended also. Northwestern Medical to moved when School? in grew up he went I one is? name (laughter) married, there school. from medical graduated both I Cornell Medical to and Utah, and we we lived residency except The have two boys. and the younger is ten. MW: What MD: My father is Richard Palmer Middleton and my mother is Lizzie was the Middleton, their MW: What Yes. my is and of they your both I your was parents parents? born were in Utah and have Rose lived most of here. connection with traditional Mormon the MD: life name born also in were the the Mormon Church? Were you raised family? Church born in and the raised Church. in the Church. Both of in MARY DAHL MW: So 3 Lake Salt in grew up you City attended and Sunday School and Primary and all the activities connected. in Grew up MW: Where MD: Uintah MW: Uintah School. MD: And MW: Urn that you hum. And East High What is you went It's this 19th day and Tell with your although age, Century. me children about and training, so training years that as that when that's I a there were many Mormon Church woman doctor at born when concerned, wanted to heywere practice, have young, Mormon and in those of how you the worked that family. your there wasn't far find your were as to bit unusual little a Well, my children the the present time? Okay. And High. East to activity with of level your MW: MD: grade school? School. Essentially inactive. out (laughter) Sunday School. attended to went then MD: in and School. then the it was City Lake Salt MD: I really I almost was had when a great through with deal pretty well the children I workea part of conflict. finished were time, my the born. and have During rea!ly MARY 4 DAHL continued to hours school at present time. the would be considered MW: Where is your medical MD: It is in Sugarhouse. MW: And MD: Yes, MW: at then you Holy at Holy said affected your working my I've really hours never their to what worked physician's schedule. time full a office? that also you do some at surgery ? -- Hospital. Cross would Mary, Cross. confining time work part attitude as a you say woman in that your Mormon any way, and if culture has in what so, ways? MD: Well be I think by caused just those men. But of I'm it's very difficult to it have MW: You MD: An is in women on older brother general in me. In difficult how many the having to regarding problems have of that sure great influence But influence the and a out a grown Church has the how much peculiar good to and some been ways influence women. sisters? sister, both in medicine. can that in up just younger problems dominated out and that that's for are the problems profession ways that the from Church some sort brothers sort this for are by a bad. does 5 MARY DAHL MW: That's an toward the from record. unusual professional family, your is or world developed independently of MD: Well family our all it that told to that could be done doing lieu of what And at Had you I to to I sister your academic school, interests and I and do to think we My father particularly with the idea raising it that homemaker a influence? in do well feel being always encouraged were connection with in programming and you pursue that direction. in that. was that it family a something something was rather than he that do. point always in your wanted to life did be a you decide physician or to go that was into medicine? in late a decision? think it had me we pursue medicine me life MD: important motivated were encouraged MW: was encouraged in and along through school, all that to some toward than family's your encouraged been has rather something this had have You must really decided that when I in the scholastic MW: So MD: Well, MW: Then your father and many you back record is of in before was in then. college, and I'm I sure probably I did. My always outstanding. was physician? a of my have many my mind school I -- relatives You have are. a father and a brother and a sister. 6 MARY DAHL MD: Well, my grandfather MW: And MD: George Middleton. Salt Lake, and MW: Your uncle is. MD: Cornell, MW: Is you What grandfather. a that said MD: Richard. MW: Richard, was a name? well known relatives have many I have many You right. and He his was in surgeon Southern utah and in medicine. cousins who attended also Cornell. (laughter) yes. was was. So would that confusing. be Your father's name ? -- who the are Middletons who other are the Cornell physicians? MD: Well, my father has who attended my mother's Cornell. MW: I'd a Cornell, sister on (laughter) like to see Anthony Middleton, who has brother, have and I the other It's someone on trying two side both to cousins of the sides take a of who family, the look are such attitude of the a number Mormon of them. Church and Well, at how would community who sons of sons also attended family. Middleton physician could become very confused. there the are two about the history (laughter) you of Because describe women and the the women's MARY 7 DAHL roles. MD: Do (laughter) Yes. encouraged it be an doing this MW: But been is other even pursue and careers could family something be rather the that conflict with my a the that? about understanding things two to asset to not these that felt has feelings any It's my women This home. most have you feeling, going against people ere doing at th time parents were But the main_stream of what tht did t, they supported LDS, I've anything detrimental. than of your because successfully and have combined sort though essentially stay to own always church has you in this endeavor? MD: Well I would reservations no my mother to was Urn MD: She a grew I feel MD: that that accept, in bishGp, and. Now this, but it I was think more me it a was foreign great deal, a to difficult her ideas had and thing than for it see. up difficult MW: about supported father's. my hum. MW: to father that my say for you that (laughter) it very a I think the her are is Well staunchly in in idea of_her accept to this or r otl.e , I have family, and her father was daughtes being In medicine understand. how do feasible fact yes. Mormon no you feel about it? family and regrets about it. In to combine Do you profession? fact, I was MARY 8 DAHL particularly think occupied elsewhere and essential is it that my children now that MW: hate have to How would you wouldn't as about that? a Do Do you This is feel them how would but that you could make you different as question, difficult a it, answer you see that besides devote my do to feel I do. -- to that independent from maybe describe Mormon any women and generalizations in elsewhere way? Well don't I because They I desires same that for MW: Do MD: Well, and different, are all and they personalities, start very and not categorize think of that many enthusiasm have to human beings, negessarily right Mormon characteristics be that that I for or them have dedication or another they have in would not so person. the people right I think women. not associated with Mormon of and is to to interests own that what person opportunity they aren't. with different say Church makes. dealing difficult to their any way, realistic when you're be woul have which same, have the in group to is I that a conform to any the as everybody out see the mistakes of Dne people not you deal just lump people together that's that is to lifestyle is one it's like think assume Everybody I able be group? women any MD: describe you else more they really don't require it anymore. because to more something have I attention to my family, I'd great deal of the time, a and older are actively women pursued common? as a seek group education with duration. out the frequenly. a great MARY DAHL MW: It's of interesting that fact Well, I to that they think isn't what It encouraged as they lip service to really goes Mormon rule a to on. So MD: Intellectually, because MW: of childlike to of education To change Well, I is but I helps the but think I the but it a for account you matter really isn't true. are not particularly education, and in women ways some in be to -- of group women, Many of them level. world the on a seem their and sort level attitudes. little a bit, what is you have some Do your attitude' opinions about about that? really don't have srong feelings about whether the Amendment is their subject passed much difference great, would talents outlook Equal Rights Amendment? the MD: their in me and the your general educational the of How as do. it difficult find I it, their pursue they develop that feel MW: culture the because ? -- they're criticized if they you that, say you promote education. claims fact the MD: 9 problem problem mind that kind of see is the be can because as a legal have I that of solution recourse set believe don't problems The that have to already cannot changes not, actually. don't we or up to them. some attitude in changed overnight by passing only think come very slowly, and I of but a are very certainly It type available, culturally ingrained it makes however, women, to that law. iniquities, the thing that everybody's Those that they MARY 10 DAHL changing slowly, are but don't think I that solution the is that simple. MW: With the national going will the at on international women's movement fact present time, by affected be in and that do you think institute or culture the Mormon that changes because of that any movement? MD: I'm that sure going what's the to policy certain a specifically MW: Do MD: I feel you think their going MW: MD: Do you the of Church have is been made, Movement a some changes Well I Le's s women only if own speak out I and and towards moves out think that women rights yes say taken have place, would bring want the stand about these way up -- these for these-changes things, it's happen. to see un be would I Whether women. some but given. been changes some making has by influenced are changed, be education of feelings and their and think I about would corne themselves, not area this that Church will the because changes some own the that things will of extent, in pUblicity the by on, any official culture,·Mormon people Mormon on think their that for within own behalf? the first time little bit Tn defensive a instance, the idea of Church the Mormon the women among are areas--which they haven't staying horne and devoting women to being put been full make on before, time to the for homemaking MARY 11 DAHL criticized by people has been for everybody, defensive about it that so it which position a wonderful 100% of being phenomenon and also there's new a necessarily not put them in has is being as a great deal of publicity about the problem of population growth them which puts something up there MW: in The Mormon Church the were that the taken women'S a That do you reject you Mormon Church religions? large family might something been has that has that at in Utah a source of pride they this not are point -- territory for continuing the Mormon the in Church Equal Rights Amendment and various the are been although Wyoming women Mormon promoting women's Church without the causes. questioning, Equal Rights Amendment, the told expect the a growing was people within the Church take the stand that is officially by to is suffrage, the feel against stand legislature, they they have been Do think I vote. Why that I people take pride in being the first exercise women's think many I taken told Mormon first, to This When certainly is years. support of women's rights having Well first idea this and lifetime. the desireable. and to law people. Mormon that recent country passed MW: feeling against questioned in MD: no was little bit, a in my about come unquestionably be not has that defensive the on to officially by Mormon the way the women women to the seek are then and if they they do that because Church. leadership positions doing are in other organized in the 12 MARY DAHL MD: No, I MW: You don't MD: No, I MW: You do MD: No, I MW: Why do to don't. foresee don't. not why that MvJ: You don't That's think women bishops? MD: Women agitating MW: to MD: No, : What kinds MD: unlikely. be that is afoot not just here feeling a within unlikely? be that would movement don't. I forthcoming? as that would think you No, that see think MD: in that? - the when you it decade have is any insight elsewhere? (laughter) have. I next Do we will see -- get into the bishopric? I don't this Well, feel of that changes culture? I'm not sure Do that is could you that the have they something Mormon any want ideas to. that women happen. would make about on that? their No. own behalf MARY DAHL MW: Do 13 isn't feel that there don't feel probably you kind that of movement the among women? MD: MW: No, I the church would But you think MD: think that women I teated be MW: Oh, MD: Rather I than MD: suitable that felt Have you as woman? Yes. the from to agitate for change. women who would Church would in who culture the be tend the less are roles? in do Or roles you 6f dissatisfied with the way to fall away from the they Church it. agitate are than make something a to feelings rather MW: apart completely active see. these more in are are people in this culture like are? Well, to the they the or of way women were there who women dissatisfied with the women's are that most feel inclined be that who involved, the for is any for things change within that drive them work within their very feelings. bending or the I the people Church. away from Church to make don't see the I think the the Church that Church Church as changing. community disapproval of your professional status MARY DAHL MW: You MD: 14 have. Without (laughter) like MW: Would you MD: Well, that's of adopt I received was something of from open a in the Church I had to that what brought has encouragement any they told certain hostility to Mild disapproval. MD: Mild disapproval, okay. MW: Do you within feel that greater here MD: There's no MW: But still than more feel subtle they what it's that harrassment It types. to me people told a that more not me, choice it that which varies (laughter) simply is something the the scheme of the disapproval it would be in question about that. you of felt never from felt I of (laughter) MW: very well of I I to so amount Church. the attitude the stay horne, certain a that? But congratulations spite And me. discuss. particularly. in do amount or of explain or should it with do to to women general feeling the involved were has one bit little a essentially that against who because is that complicated topic a profession, a defiance that describe to quite Church the doubt. a chose to corne back fit that doesn't Church. about other Yes, here. professional your parts that Is is of the status country? certainly that because true. you like is MARY 15 DAHL Utah? MD: No, did MW: (laughter) Why MD: (laughter) This, live and back myself and satisfaction MD: the your neighbors, would pressures in from say made has involved been to far as that that patients, first of all from family they don't patients select themselves, come are wonderful, fine. I have they absolutely are no very and of the and to general the come primarily or just a come at all so and circumstances. these describe you York change in coming the subjected under the and is New attitudes the as one practicing that say in brought elsewhere would I it in to'come I've problems. more probably than here See, and here? come able negative feelings this I be would has one Does Well, I and really considerable community MW: it because medicine think I was to perhaps, may have been the wrong choice here, having practiced here choose problems by living more Chicago. you elsewhere. living could have been very happy I that favorable the and from variety? from patients. patients that complimentary problem with patients. They're super. MW: And did you have an easy or difficult time building up a practice here? MD: Not having anything to compare it with, I couldn't say that for sure, MARY 16 DAHL but MW: So MD: No. That's oe.of not with my of source something is patients very difficult. a coming is the me?ical than scene were women only woman that I to are that assume it will gists. So are in I be, feel would that unusual Why did you.make the choice MD: Well, my husband and I ties and a roots are significant children and question that we The factor. in being abl to to debated, residency to situation an but the I Utah's am and woman, the foreseeable set a I ophthalmolo­ women practice in to for Many groups for other any more where many always the only aren't is difficult where adjustment. that way, come both had here. all been a enjoyable more It's much were women from I'm be not there because it's think where where a However particular problem for a Utah. ophthalmolgy MW: a community they things of kind ophthalmologist is kind of future, don't in involved belong just would are is that a institutions local and physicians adjust to, particularly coming to you other thing One from part of the me satisfying and very great deal of enjoyment and satisfaction. a dealing with neighbors, me been has that do. to relationships that my found I've And problems. my inding, enough I'm Being unsuccessful, (laughter) No. (laughter) exactly failed? haven't you overwhelmed with work. qute present time I'm really the at up where time. back grown up problems determing Utah? to here, of how large one give them freedom and that I had and cities wants and all to of family our these days raise safety, but it rservations about, is and I 2 ROWLEY is true in need to The individual archivist will institutional archives. an to his adapt the concepts discussed in this paper own situa- tion. In several advocating points an intelligent aggressive acquisitions program, must be considered. intelligently without selectivity. concern The archivist cannot The archival should society preserve? every recurring, i.e. some to be are cussion. lection Lee given many As least if it himself, what segment of once has the individual that worth remembering an criteria and time and space do not example, the following is of Statement for an permit excerpt from Manuscripts a archives? full disthe Col- at the Harold B. Brigham Young University. a specific acquisition programs be wise to consider the criteria discussion of commitments, it may deciding on subject collections development. history, inclinations and For Brigham locality of the institution in question. Young University this means special interest in Ivlormonism, religion, Utah, Utah Valley, the American Hest, and ldiddle for in profession archivist decide what to preserve in his Prior to and hasn't) even Development Policy Library at answer documented in my archives? How does the There These and the need to Once the (or answers, archivist must ask ought the answers must be generation and possibly every decade. suggested must What's worth remembering. and related questions are difficult to answer, them is profession Uhat documentation itself with several braod questions. (records) collect areas for The first consideration is the America. The second consideration is the programs of academic strength in the institution in disciplines most likely to This means pursue documentary or historical research. that history and its sister disciplines will receive the . greatest emphasis. In assessing the . strength of various academic programs it is pertinent to ask which offer the terminal or Ph.D. Degree, which include nationally or MARY 17 DAHL MW: Are physicians women I MD: No, MW: Yes. MD: aware Do have you ONE OF in Salt courageOUS of why the are in I No, women were goal now? that don't. there women whose acomplishments some couldn't I No, into have I a early days of the Church the think were more were country? the interesting thought. an women there Mormon pursuing not I Lake. time one true? about CASSETTE) That's great deal of respect for that Is and then at in other parts than opinions any SIDE 19th Century that. of qestion. that answer the of medicine (END OF No. in right choice the was in Utah wasn't field the that aware you it if still wonder outstanding many and lives are and astounding to me. MW: Yes, Do MD: you Yes. have Yes, heritage, I think and I really amazing things MW: I have outstanding some women in your on both sides of my think that women who to heritage family have led Raising large families me. family? in your there is pioneer lives that doing and are other many besides. asked most the status you would of like of women to the in add questions the Mormon either about that I wanted community. that Do subject ask to you or you have about about anything your own MARY 18 DAHL physician MD: Well, have I interesting It's and work. life the Church why women appalling is in the It's comment. of the to mystery accept very well myself and have do people MW: But MD: Well,' you MW: You really think that going it's be to mentioned MD: think I in medical taboo. MW: Such MD: Well, is one school You will changes you solve open,subjects the changeforthcoming except-in see take Is some thing is there felt education. that would Well, this with to little so that can't I time understanding why other hard a problems that that has lot a to of say things were not just didn't talk about that you could here? since have discussed that that think rapidly. very else women changed ways? changing attitudes anything for minor don't I occur some were there but place, anything that's going that about women's see can't understand I t's something me. in either. don't I woman treated are women acquiesce themselves a the way oppressiv€,and and Church kind that only the are you project. in my interviewed personally think I that been before things like the days brought that were I was out kind into of that. as? the let me way see. I the world think was that and women that's would1kind it. You of accept that this wouldn't think of MARY 19 DAHL speaking out and feeling, but this things, think I that and discussed self bit little a things these because place, take to These something. or one's to church's the this may be or feeling my kept one going are about being talked are ideas were is unfair this particularly isn't changes the but more, hey, say, openly which they haven't been before. MW: So perhaps MD: I'm Oh that sure of result a possible this made as in Utah the this national women/'s movement, the these for subjects national movement had has open? be to influence an has on everybody. MW: MD: So while of the you Church, but Yes, of world but to. security, who MW: And do any the They, do you see them I you feel and at least them too think, think that and don't the Church there is problem of a own is to that many not appreciate their of live they fail who may leadership positions the discussing their problems. women situations with the pursuing women think I types of necessarily case? Mormon faced are supporting aren't you see think that many Mormon I instances, Women don't not wish that in kind of an appreciate i other many are in. raising, children, only to women atypical work, but forced are people have problems that making. accepting stigma of attached women to who must working work women in or MARY DAHL MD: No, and 20 I MW: for who women necessity, a the in caught are they kind of fail other words is it that reality deal with to great deal of the time. Perhaps with opening and MD: In appreciate to sympathy very much have situation. a fail think they often discussing hope it will. Well, I but think I them will ingrained that there people's in help in I think so are subjects these all up minds situation. that it's step in the right direction, a ideas many that deeply so are changes don't occur,very these that the_problems all and rapidly. MW: MD: while So women, you slower pace. Well, I movement MW: Oh, MD: I I country is moving toward greater opportunities for the think here that movement see is there against also kind taking place also, of a little bit of but a at a reactionary it. see. think of sort what's emphasis on remaining of thing in a of approach to be way to to take on at home kind of this outside equal in the changes is going world place, are among and a women doing home throw back. threat. The it would the crafts It's women obviously going because in to a who not immediately Church, the that and type reactionary type are not want leave prepared these them out MARY 21 DAHL in cold the themselves, weren't MW: I I day. I but think I not or strong as afraid be They wouldn't they somebody else, on if it of of care they Have women. possibly is don't have in true pioneer days. the feeling that Mormon they're unusually submissive I the in them about unwilling and women that before? heard ever you often that aware are you think present to think themselves. for that MW: So MD: Yes, MW: Do you feel that you have any Meeting Well, but in I for some that's feel that that the certain say that are being amount I or admire in been Lake I than really I can be the I felt dealt with. I the get because that that on or the situation thought the whole two. Women's 1977. newspaper, interested too I just basically that is not a way generally there was both side of of June in read couldn't disgraceful behavior either generation a City in problem is, solved. there. change a International the something like that, in of about Salt more other isn't where problems make anything reason that held was know being involved to has there place in just taken comments that don!t gradually that see I Year a totally dependent take to totally dependent position. a think this that was, MD: such prepared and educated type of change. described Well, not are don't know whether are MD: in they and this resist they're if or cene sides. how just I the kind can't problems of turned MARY 22 DAHL me off in with either MW: Do for MD: of ideas them and think about them are an of problems the MW: In the Women's MD: Urn hum. MW: Do you Well, have the productive not the open probably in of behavior. bad and women, Movement that so light a don't know that I this productive of type per a I can a lot talk about they haven't thought that think I have I somehow people that great number of people's a and in very it mostly was strong feelings can't get very interested situation. hum. Urn for of ideas any Mormon I should go have intellectually how could is to suited Mormon culture to control every wrong, and getting back same. I medical ten the pursue aspect of to don't think that school children. to life could make be done? Chur-ch tries think should about What women? people aren't all the woman into them in involved life which street think they're I But lot a being MD: are changed by things like that, in easier sort out about before. example about large meetings of that that. say brought are minds to rights? can't I the that women's Well, like would I faction. feel you align myself not (laughter) general. and Some I also people careers and the every don't are some a person's basic problem, woman think on that emotionally my every and people aren't, and MARY 23 DAHL people some emotionally able are successfully, but raise to, shouldn't be and aren't people certainly some large family a that appeals encouraged in this direction if it isn't something to them, people personalities MW: MD: them do mold and have Give them the freedom Mormon you feel think I some things, different is that that the that in but For of where they, have policy of promoting the actually in Church it's kind of this and or gives lip service happens in many people's lives, attitude MW: You see itself, the among then in the goes free often give the has what that are to in marry in a really re the the and situation education, of not effect instance For puts people to 'ideas and completely longer possible, no Do doing about is on ideas up mold. agency. encouraged are individuality then? ways some same loud out people. they get into' situations where it is Church into talks Many people compromise to often among large families early, have fit the time. same and interests to truth what education own all Church encouraging mediocrity situation their the at that and into all them cram functioning properly not instance to sam thing all the them a try not more aspirations different have pursue Church claims Yes, of to than to encourage The and interests and same rather they and individuals are consideration into take should Church the ,that so and not because so the what prevailing their members. that terms the of Church,' you're thinking of the leadership, making changes place where it should for women. happe in'direct Would policy? yog see that's 24 MARY DAHL MD: Well, it's hard Church and what attitudes that influential MW: MD: know we are mind than what everybody leadership of Do you think the to the memberships, opinions, Oh to extent:,.· but some attitudes the everybody's in are on, policy f associate what is the offibial to the and think I is of that the Church. the are probably the It's the more policy. official Mormon'Church is responsive needs? view the Church t.ha t.i I _essentially being fairly unbending. MW: MD: for Well, the outlook would you describe it? Well, I think women in of the .r e s t, going tbe, really MD: Yes. M,W: And Yes. do grown you or it's in I see intend how do kind it .and of step wi th the have no to you the Mormon Hopeful the world, but isn't I as in attitude the that with Mormon women plans t6 or are you culture pessimistic toward women, is out of don '.t I an well the is how about it? situation step with whats going know what isolated rest then of- the the outcome is penomenon that just country. leave. W0x.:-k, longer hours after your children see'your future in your'profession? are on as 2 ROWLEY is true in need to The individual archivist will institutional archives. an to his adapt the concepts discussed in this paper own situa- tiona In several advocating points an intelligent, aggressive acquisitions program, The archivist cannot collect must be considered. The archival intelligently without selectivity. concern and related them is every questions recurring, ,are i.e. What's worth remembering. preserve? should society difficult to answer, the answers must be some answers, (or even if it least at Once the hasn't) to be Lee As an of for Statement for an permit a archives? full dis- excerpt from the Col- Manuscripts at the Harold B. Brigham Young University. Prior to and has remembering decide what to preserve in his example, the following is Development Policy Library in individual the There are many criteria and time and space do not lection once documented in my archives? How does the archivist cussion. answer profession archivist must ask himself, what segment of that worth ought These and the need to given decade. generation and possibly every suggested must \'Jhat documentation itself with several braod questions. (records) profession a discussion of specific acquisition programs be se to consider the criteria commitments it may deciding on subject areas development. for collections The first consideration is the history, inclinations and For Brigham locality of the institution in question. Young University this means special interest in Ilormonism? religion, Utah, Utah Valley, the American America. programs West, and 1,liddle strength of academic disciplines most likely to second consideration is the in the institution in This means documentary or historical research. history and its sister disciplines will receive the In assessing the strength of various greatest emphasis. pursue . . that academic programs it is pertinent to ask which offer the or Ph.D. Degree, which include nationally or terminal MARY DAHL MD: Yes, 25 probably will gradually I MW: So the about remain schedule will the for but profession, with my time goes as professional woman. duties? household futr, foreseeable think my I being of act and 'a mother of your What about how do you take care you share those with your husbarid Do time more same. you're doing the balancing that spend on is who ' , also you? MD: always done hired have problem him hardly keep of work up care'6f it myself with some help that's knd of things of this people that's but home, the less to do help and less duties with my husband, do much professipnal take that, for those out? of in someone have you suitable household to most get older, children share do work to find to or that work does How I've I physician a because himself, with what and he is he has doing he's 'from of a problem. and I don't kind of continuing sort. r No, really As the don't ncourage overwhelmed with really no time. without who women He infiicting can that upon him. MW: MD: ? even with the enjoying your professional standing But think problem, you seem to be managing as a woman it nicely, in-utah which and is an example I Well, hope that it will be something that will help others who come not I alori for many after me, having people pioneers of to others because come to one of see. the along after. doing this type of thing" I've had of the problems that I'm sort of hope that my and I one having is done 2 ROWLEY is true in need to The individual archivist will institutional archives. an to his adapt the concepts discussed in this paper own situa- tion. 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