Barbara Korsch-Ward, Pacific Palisades, California: an interview by Newell Bringhurst

Transcript (41 pages) of interview by Newell G. Bringhurst with Barbara Korsch-Ward, an associate of Fawn Brodie, on January 29, 1989. This interview is no. 273 in the Everett L. Cooley Oral History Project, and tape no. U-977. Accompanied by Dr. Korsch's curriculum-vitae

Korsch-Ward (b. 1921) recalls her friendship with Fawn McKay Brodie and her husband Bernard, whom she met as neighbors and later helped Fawn with her widowhood and in 1981, she helped Fawn during her last ordeal with cancer, as she was a medical doctor. Interviewer: Newell Bringhurst

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Final Illness 1157, o Datingsthe M iripiands HerlCharacter HerSChtitlidieen@ites T £ 8 Gl Cas e . roal P LSV i R b 6 A1 MOEMeNESTIE ThelMountatinParElk s ot s e Bl o, 2L . oo ol ] 25 e iaas | SHlt (5l 315 o Poillitti csiand ¥ Community S invielivzemenit™ o o s, 819 THIS IS JANUARY 25, 1989, AND I'M IN PACIFIC PALISADES [CALIFORNIA] AT THE HOME OF BARBARA KORSCH-WARD. THE TOPIC OF THE INTERVIEW TODAY IS FAWN BRODIE. [NEWELL BRINGHURST IS THE INTERVIEWER. THIS IS PART OF THE EVERETT L. COOLEY ORAL HISTORY PROJECT, UNIVERSITY OF UTAH. TAPE #1.] NB: The topic guess BK: of the the place to comfortable in got to her, the years. know knew and I her hill, [background is your since noise before '62. Fawn house. and They ceiling, the we on one. Bernard told me decided to another, one we were the park. In bought the a living and They and few to hill other it room. When know so they words, the we had had these the this sympathetic on the interest landscape and really 1liked friends, Fawn's this high who had in very us Democrats beautiful the have the too. neighbors and ringing] almost in theirs conservation for they thi's one and Sympathetic fights this friends [laughter] her bought ceilings, among Yon was several and '61, house, had house, about was their they raise this in because to on don't that ambition moved theirs--I saw cathedral over 1lift you tall her We I you with to whether very we I feel how Tanotherthouse house. ceiling, you about which in this cathedral Brodies time tape] Brodie. wherever interaction the this Fawn talking bought 1loved is just and EhinkNEn S tactiwenliiived hill and today start starting, Well, IS interview state all around hill. in here, [telephone 1liked one BARBARA KORSCH-WARD another time a lot, big and and we them in just say we always when always friendly we I'd occasions party spent those days. few one was Christmas spend a invited there a didn't that times another always a much a for New the Year's party. The hill loved the hill--both Fawn year was very of did. So, every New Years and every the hill would get together? along BK: but together. together, NB: #1 Not most that of them, would don't be know but the the group Kellens whether Christmas and you've us talked that and to most was the people friendly, Johnsons. I them. Mest They BK: were good But anyway, the Johnsons. Johnsons, friends so you and down. I family would be just the Mrs. a year or Brodies. by hard so to with Mrs. DeBoer get She fact, Lucille together know ago. work. Fawn. was don't In DeBoer's drawing get there houses of That's DeBoer. paintings, but the Brodies good She was one ones. 2 of Kellens and lived two who whether you--well, in with. was Fawn the touch a was very a [pointing I never had the to could some first She good great of her died friend of admirer of the wall] afford the people a her really who did BARBARA KORSCH-WARD sort of mix know ethnic and have quite a Bruce and Janet did Fawn and #1 whether good friendship abeutithat i too. to Sedona, name is Jim is kind get a first of of of us group his him. like on liked sick, they that, so Brodies. When sabbatical, become always a France, went good very good she over spectacular she a always food, there and meals. had and But on me They room 3 for with a which cook when for she gave very flower would there were second kind one or but not but not was, she She was back meals, good so to Bernard's while. from and for parties, arrangements be able advice that came down he when from a Mrs. was Kellens, seven-course go it system, year His we like back §ust but the medical the came but a 1lot of be So Just a son, in side. was goes. son dead, always would beautiful that the another. don't has and were other forget we is They were put comes husband's ambitious would he I him, wouldn't Fawn cook. te form, know You were I Eallk: art that would own. call we with did who another one We her but had the friends. or it, he too. intimate the kept She Her house who gets things on friends mediterranean a house. but and husband. off good of the one Arizona, wonderful in bit The Bishop, hold very a iifisvoulwantaitel moved DeBoer's modern, we these and and very beautiful. Ahd BARBARA KORSCH-WARD Bernard was very lovely flowers. killed him proud A and lot her, of his has because those roses. believe but people said would get quite a those without have roses bit. She to garlic, garlic that became for kind of friends, was I guess So you became she me. So and a year kind of before to of those he to really down there I'm bouillabaisse there, the and first after what because make But was close were were had happen nice, would I, lot because very we a we and that's don't So occasion. she about I that; always and that used splendid. was garden said they on that, rose been insecticides allergic NB: #1 he she died. her after we'd time died, her we which husband died? BK: After she became widowed, when was she a used and would then she bit heard and was very to long in with before the the her reading year, out of that was and in it the loud to you I and my know, 4 book, had it forget active before was my what up blind, Fawn mother. So part it here quite So it who person, printed, to mother. Cause mother, She was already time. my been read she was other winters. book and I politically and that, one Nixon Nixon of on Because there us parts working some fact, intelligent during was widow. writing live bring a was we all was, a had published. BARBARA KORSCH-WARD You know, her, with and group we invaded parties, were where knew #1 no all one anyone's one my good work, would friends. depended privacy, another's husband on but and was a anyone and no one respected and all on. kindiloffaninteilfllectualitfartistic here, which lived out wife. Do NB: ENdente BK: The very here. you Mrs. know appealing. Leon kind is of a still You know, "littlel Mrs. nice it was group up Feuchtwanger Feuchtwanger, the and she up her library author's her? famous author's wife, held and was with It we so dance salon, being and shown. It lived here. belongs was a very She to USC literary group. NB: Would you discuss different issues, political issues and-BK: Politics, food know, it was would have something and an wine, interesting general like and how is the hill. You group in the sense you conversations, that. They were not all just very gossip or interesting InSEhbEngs NB: Ideas BK: Tdedsyveshin because were and-- VEspecialilly S wilthssastlot Konrad from was RAND interested in that, Corporation--and 5 "of Wpolitics, Bernard Fawn was and he very BARBARA KORSCH-WARD interested, SEESEhe e obviously, va S humanistic music. #1 all really the had great Sel relationship, years before still come talked mentioned that she the Nixon South as book, thrown lecture at him, tour. of that. She go down there interested in She was close. Then after When her being to go to he been wanted thinking for Machu that. Picchu, 6 a get She and widow, about I I it. be also, she time of for trip had to that had a tomatoes on the that sources interesting of I learned realize some I and because, rough would the would apparently some which was his and really it Peru He good talking hard a their Fawn somehow, booed to that document went. a know, a she was for when. were and she being to know Fawn art, were and all died, are down wanted had we that one, 1liked So he about things we France you that 1liked liked went had, always and to He'd and DeBoer they when time. and She probably remember hard food, why she You Brodies travel, planning America. don't very travel us European with the was Smoxe parties. about of of died. the rest Lucille not communicating we I but to ENa e Then s therefiwere the we he too. there. 1love That's the good advocates sabbatical. were and Johnson, Francophile. was o 1liked Tony a it topics, We nature. at and course, never to was seen. BARBARA KORSCH-WARD So was I, made a have a so we couple of little information biography. trip tinier, spend as a on day. I was very to flight and the hotels. of Machu whether fascinated and we'd planning and wanted to enough so of I a quite nice As it Spanish us into we were a lot gone and ta traveler than knew we of very I. get she her. 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I stuff, all arrangements. as would arrangements who 1little don't we made top the okay, professional the into decided, medical She and us #1 anxioeous know, that everybody BARBARA KORSCH-WARD was corrupt shouldn't as She I much was. flew help then us. driver. when and so had customs; offered luggage some the as soon at the there was and little very all and fellow, going felt our he kept dubious through the himself as about customs a taxi comfortable about and we he hesitation knew went with it, wanted him. He us-- So you BK: Then, when we got small suitcase was were saying horrified. jewelry. my little personal to lose. We airport I and that's it. have." Fawn have that to was didn't We it were was 1let the complication hotel It bring very was gone. take 8 my much, you And about She him was said, us." with was but it, "I both and one it had don't seeing it at said, we didn't Everybody the gone. little really we this- unpacking, taxi remembered warned sure. the which we and and mine. things thought then this missing, It my should the we carry experience first, a and about Lima pushy were our with NB: was to were us money, shouldn't funny with he of already taxi we and Neither he down We out cautious a aggressive, something drove had struggling and but We was to we more I an take and We wanting a jewelry, in. of with shouldn't got airport sort we was than we him, and wear purses. things #1 I with all want the "Now shouldn't think got we so BARBARA KORSCH-WARD excited about naturally he #1 was my got as a loss, hold thought I she was worried him by was because I was music on worried Sand maybe breakneck into the middle there in the and then he can dance of hall all the put on we wonderful athink they "We were all wouldn't our city spoiled she also felt so we went by this positive up to 9 stol to terrible about to the won''t Viiike it." and was He was so he now. said, He You are drove we came standing thrilled, "Now suitcase." you with very it because the off and was and your in people back, and Eawn llillkeMoursciity: find us. you 'you and way bandits, want go suitcase kgeing music, note us He SEhatlestory S Thatrealily a to and "Why 1it?Y radio. still found for the airport, the said, checking your for back back the waiting because backFwiith such pace He ook suitcase we'll came maniac about your drivers a Syourenot 1lost but He going andMhelsatidimlohy & T so taxi were. started was dishonest, remember, She There you saying, they like You're that driver. drove because us as other talithedaiirportito crazy. den tEsi ket with that He cheerfulis at the myself. airport. me of distressed dentElvelgenback that. and I we came S sSentlour triphoff everybody had told he kept know. have And your thing." it, rooftop so visit After that that, night, restaurant to I and BARBARA KORSCH-WARD had a spectacular beverage which distilled started was having her very is all a local of fascinating. It and on didn't too have illustrations stormy as, we But you Mormon trip know Church negative one. You mean in in I Lima. other been kept Peru? 10 The him, with we in of She was really of talked to a bore quite out most things into of thrilled the stormy she lot relationship running to issues which learned very was went got interesting a visit general, she all have various We old but Fawn's I was them. think, We trouble which it and We some the people, and a interested pursued through there. everywhere. NB: o0ld an well, We we articles, in were had is was know remember anecdotes, very to surprises, learned there want did Times. down there time. of limes. that interpreter, us many and 1local sort 1local good you 1looked the and is to copied journalists Pisco might the and sour. instruments we who gave 1libraries newspapers what was their really talked I drank time, that people We what and a and wonderful good had because interesting. Lima. with things Nixon. with pisco very We the addresses his a music much. forgotten, the dinner beverage wonderful by #1 such to and in the very Mormons BARBARA BK: KORSCH-WARD Yeah, in other Peru, I about the represented NB: Were these BK: Most of NB: That you BK: Yes, ran Picchu. you're by the ISiEElle® Mormon quite to or met poison them from of Fawn's that she felt Church. lots highest We keep to giving of joking kept you now altitude sickness. remember that their quite we too. rules had there. tea with we But a it little denlt drank we the hall sickness. It's of time was drugs, and with the but sours. feel the there. fact, There quite pisco did in you bit, a I really got take lovely matter help if this leaves. was Fawn interesting IE1E a coco fact, till an As would got in altitude to you tanks than fly then a Cusco, higher you staying go I normally. where had Cusco. Siterribly - high. get In We were oxygen that in We were because saying Peru. Picchu, have people in were place itsl they place we Machu bus. of few place. a go a but because a when is hotelfsMandis remember, Anyway, the we missionaries? It train lived the highest going little all sampling a and experience Machu they quite power were is lot as into? there they tourists them. which the as got Mormon fascinating a and places. feeling was #1 sick, we I defied Then we altitude. You know BARBARA KORSCH-WARD she was such everything one #1 a scholar. She had Cusco. She knew about afternoon, that she and had she to use we didn't visited was vow, a out--Fawn either. while guide costume. they you strong couple It was had fabulous, ethnic. a the in 152 I guide. sub-group brought with Church, There group, know But us, roused was one that the Ecuadorian you they her flagellating feelings rich were--and the place. taking beautiful know. ghastly Catholic 1little and always really around. that went that her It liked We in colorful, don't from little know. we woman and good church these been wonderful They guess--I translating made together, these us negative this free, she tour. young of taken in gotten and shaved her very of being being about, a in economy some had tour, fairly was and the go a a books, sights, from showed of lot English--I sort story the was us that 1lover both looked he no were had and was A we there guide would She gave nunnery her we anything everything, spectacular some the all domestic So those, whole and know Somebody including herself up. the coupons there. know avoid of You private things there. paintings these be her even to There to In these had bought. 1liked economist. tried we all know, and pigtails, and didn't I was anyway, and speak doing they after we BARBARA KORSCH-WARD went #1 through how this Fawn in normal was monk really usually there, there's was couple some friendly with English. Later are how they run the out are they that so we kept this a for on, it really very ub. I we, young and something--I and said around answered that a forget we doctor what 153 us for was so 1little a speak a lot they country, It turned social and about but the the worker, the Mormons aware. But the other four "of wus) thils Sthe™ and knocked us, and I at this spoke were a and a social did, from he them. Ecuador church, conversations, never a beneficial. woman Swastthat went voice much and to Ecuadorian in told so around couldn't that their don't go young for see they speak they this we became out great was MEhing This We of you can They do ethnic cropping writer turned powerful. of and wall. that. they If you although lot Spanish, a us a nuns said God, about, "Could around where of a InEeresting And sort the visitors. proselytizing had couple said, us to something Fawn them, were said Then took showing married of the schools, been guide place very had tryptics some see a of still that joined Mormons woman here. The series This are them?" that young there 1living There ghastly appalled. fact order this group to from wall. her in America, worker and Ecuador--and BARBARA KORSCH-WARD that we would fresh, if nice we could She was one of you can put to could It put them and Superior they a glass, There ever agreed us grill were got nuns, little bleachers and the and we increasingly in we there and it there. and she had It 14 got where you gifts she just lo the and Mother come and visit." it was like bleachers going up where like long visit So going work, Superior to friendlier and grill really that the So "Yes, incredible, was Mother feed give door. outgoing--they was you and and a this time, thing said, Mother in around couple, was we the your we could so where closed gallery And little cookies--and went this work other and of turn were young out There come time, that into convent this this back, century. whole these and had would very interested. before 2zoos said ask turnstile long with you those a eerie She very way was spellbound, would that was a came took back Fawn for she visit. was People She very and little there friendlier behold a things. then at was she things it. just "Yes," have see were something, is disappeared in obviously in and and We come those used animals. voice voice, Superior. come porthole. young they to nice closed asked the love young, this and #1 not we sat. this, in offered because medieval. and front with a of them. us no No wine man one, BARBARA KORSCH-WARD except #1 someone burial. to But, church, fix we had know, the confessional from the don't something. this had about asked lives and They world. They weren't and they were fix of their really was an quite she asked doctors and on, view like they of you me to Fawn she asked ask some a I good 1L15) really relation to from really death in the only men in absolutely had to The 1living be them by showed of some It was impressed me where if Don't fine us it. she was, Finally, they hesitated. rapport. the a relentlessly. of to to What got personal out proud experience. how didn't off They very good go their that. were a in think who and to leave. were themselves. have to made things and I people They gquestions flagellate yes, Fawn so cut ol really I allowed only really were were even incredible a the really think, was visitors the 1left, which them to and a the They nuns they their allowed and of of came outside. Fawn Some were work and "Go I something. embroidery mean because family. there they questions I their family where perform part conversation, reporter. their or other cloister long translate, birthdays place probing. investigative to a worker increasingly dare the know--twenty-eight We social plumbing seen you had--I the still She you said, know to BARBARA KORSCH-WARD SayattEE R SpantishRUSSTESahdy could come until I "No, up gifts. trip, and feelings love a was rights everybody medical had by own young and each Machu Picchu at had to share. but it was gbod guess. sport rooms, were that We didn't cold and and a on of the 16 to agreed but by our real know, much these talk, get She in nuns and in it there. enjoyed in course only of You see we brought very some me, medicine, of the local Machu Picchu night we shared wherever we went, that time the hotel get in any amusing was neither filled, fights was She traveling was 1In so over a a we individualistic. uncomfortable. very was to said, her Mormonism. to pretty time launched things. went we points So me Anyway, day T said, Fawn high managed and We prodded So next she think Superior interested I It's she subsequent these choice. our of always inspiring. not and we establishments, very room, I in women. that was is, Fawn lot enjoyed she the of a special also of feminist, Lt [laughter] the got So question." policies of exactlys Mother and one it a the we because much the quite was Cause each It subject really was very again with the flagellate." about was Then indiscreet do them some was an WNot something." them. was they thanked she with asked that "Yes, #1 we it, very companion. BARBARA KORSCH-WARD There were very #1 a million well. She remember enough probably learned from reading the than All I it most I of She him, told about from a that me. enough about that about she his who really [Nixon's] in the amlsiiEElleNd I from can't her. manuscript didn't and learn have in her. After sick and her I book. then TSt to It we but there was turn the a doctors friend whom 17 importance of able validate and negative fiercely hostile that, You I I thought. know She think write she was told me that's her that he all was hink S mu'sic " beinthe she was I think we gets any my that what out she that but sick, did didn't with got very intimate. they I the time she more I really she closest became know. more drawing him friends, they it. to stormy so really unfortunately, whenever the was I trip rather about remained Nixon's She everybody, remember heard anything that ha t don't with and to on, of oriented. used seem so Because to He ogiandWailflSt biography. heard book. I really book. mother along biography. hearing the got was were about the very psychoanalytically his we but, part she enjoyed lot and Because her is do, into getting those and me heavily than knew from got about rumors reception to satisfied, more remember the toward very what of really that was of instrument things a tend to lot of BARBARA KORSCH-WARD ombudsman and illness. there It at NB: very She to went long just It was very NB: It was a BK: A to stay in were cancer, or not. then and not doing and got there I I don't sicker the down to I'd the scoot things felt got you're in or to they know her think that's writing about. and sicker. hospital? Was it so? I I also would things it? tried Dick think the time. I think don't know may I have get been. had kept feel for 18 to. him “want My here strongly patients of They frightened ishelRdildnit she hard--she to and would very trying at there, they before that what wasn't shick S and knew I to I'm husband hospital so patient. house. her her washsol her, we were but, for month go facilitate help because children best to last her overwhelmed. try actually for to independent. time, time, was want her short. the Bruce care so last short short to was John's the BK: and a she through didn't was relevant was about she was St. her difficult her, She she probably How at enough when for everybody help. have then very house; look get didn't was and and and advocacy the hospital, down #1 that Pam he her of and whether did Hge' husband about which their because ‘to until wanted she Eolthe died of died. She will and make them BARBARA KORSCH-WARD miserable, against long I so the I in so do this had remember that think chemotherapy fell finally, she find was very that the the became went way way. Christmas we're at we she was the Janet carols, not very and we close 159 were very Some since here, invite at people no other I don't all. you But but she a great her can I know was also deal of themselves in friends in a grateful, and so of the doctors then, I--you their children them of when That find time. 1living and who then important, and do did but course had I some many long. home, so for that record. also people go treatment. very stay She John's, they many husband. another hospital to think children very Bruce the So I when my so as had St. 1like a then, her, then her for helped remember hospital live. all did I've to desperate motivated to I that with through got, from she I did know--she, the out very different but in situation. were she pretty motivated denial with was and defend did What starting something. some of She pilgrimages she you kind unfortunately, fate, surprisingly she easily or out, recourse, think back. same those to went situation, of I me system. know the many treatment. hair you to care she and sister made looked until remember, My she medical time, friends #1 to Again, the it know do parties, is much BARBARA KORSCH-WARD less closer Dick, I he have spoke young #1 than with hardly any Swedish. woman who occasionally. died. So, there. And when she remember, She in was really was unless you stunning. She appearance for except with with me. So I seen the way was the since really are would like After That's tall, and factors. not We him Fawn ended to be that it all I about specific this see all trip. some various at she patient. have now, family mostly a him, involved the was with got to Fawn, generation. he haven't relations to remembered, was works I proceeding relationship Then Pam, my the questions. very all feminine liked her a o NB: So== BK: She use was going with to NB: Do other BK: a do a from think liberal factors with Nixon? Well, she her about was ideas. disliked him it Nixon book. the Democrats you was to him liberal talk I mean but of her Democrat, or do a I'm for made her fighter. a much the same 20 I had Not hers more which before she beginning. didn't, was long more was you to she passive reasonsAthat good very-- because there expose even she feud all very, think knew special that politics, want mean a I she were and deal fought for 1liberal. I shel il but BARBARA KORSCH-WARD never would decument gone to and ‘try to and things. so She his She and et would somebody as who a £find as that mad decent person different story. was she hated for and you ideas, all. at an these person, it to about political hated did She and honest she she things. his gotten a that passionate very cetera, was length was well have the oppression, was 1lying behavior she hated dishonesty. never have it activist, know #1 I sick mean she Eisenhower what he or was, you know. NB: But BK: It Nixon was was a more. It was his whole character as well as hilsSpollitEicse NB: Shemdadnitese e any.thingMgood ani that S man anybody Until ait S ailis then? B I don't think idealizes him remarkable, NB: You or said talking IBES Yeah. the but that Mormons America. I it You Mormons. about a you at very kept say about think was she when Well, dogma, but, did. were that think It was women, it all about 2t up and kind that wasn't of so feeling. down Mormonism in activated South her that. between the everybody against traveling that was time personal bumping reminiscing I the now the feelings freedom, and Catholics she of had course and about what BARBARA KORSCH-WARD she NB: had But #1 personally she saw experienced those two that with religions the as Mormons. particularly oppressive? BK: Yes, I she think so. Well, reminisced heard about her go into Catholics as a any talking and came to her and effective when we What have she those say darn she about the certainly as “whyd well run into tremendous work. Gee! Somehow, [in] foreign and you very have if you see aware how many we came but she had a Fawn, to Ehink other it that allude I as the Catholicism would ‘thing, being before being and had constantly remember tother one before S thinlk * sthatst analogies would Mormons, no. one," and "How do about how they funded for the were ever about Well, done I T never statements we don't been with I the to everywhere. I across special that. would there's WS ol something traveling for but America, would to other. the missionary never antenna BK: M Ehatlsi sensitive would NB: about Central countries, I witnessing particular whereas EhemMermonss be up. Mormonism South It were the religion, cenErontedMiwitth analogies we the walk and they people. do them? Did again?" say, "My it?" this school Fawn would 212 she say, "Oh, [laugh] goodness. Then and just you Another would what sort they of hear had say, BARBARA KORSCH-WARD Yroak. You effective would and same say, she how she they really powerful." but of mean, the time a that would lot have a him," you know. Even though does, look how people adore She was impressed wished that strongly about have been What did within they with women in even she about say Mormonism? Did so the was might loves that he kind of achievement, relate and She and their treating ever I at everything religions, of and way effective. outside she doctrine. everybody their both treated, It she putting them, the dislike him. weren't for is, I of evil Just Reagan words way their distaste. effective what a admiration how tremendously know as spread of are don't chose they had I "Look thing. NB: know use, things I #1 felt how they religion. of the about women her own gossip and family? BK: I don't how much the they know how much she told me. Church, and thought wonderfully But this e Butiel her I do. she was ! the I what knew was the heard she was some had when kind she of probably image 23 a sort was been out I devil. She of got read disgrace. out religion Msnot i suretthat You I considered liberated directly. That was of from that think felt under was of it. around Vi realilyy know that from know more about that than all lived with, that we and BARBARA I NB: KORSCH-WARD can't remember all that Oh, I'm So #1 she all about sure had building how you NB: Or BK: I these after I were inside that, part out. I I wasn't new, and new, but the of Mormons you the find Church? going knew the know that she how there and how trip. she She knew it of go sort operated, was that feeling she would I on and they have. learned I after enemies, mean, would what get out Did things? she never information to of with wasn't the powerful because probably think, for sorts they the read it. school? MesHEhatlsiErsiight: from was for did. BK: think sources she admiration the doing the where impressed, trip. The I Mormon for women she went about getting stopped at had nothing story. She was very thorough And unafraid. and very meticulous? Unafraid? I think it was one of her characteristics. She was a fighter. NB: Now, did there purpose BK: She she and of wanted plan this gather her to trip information? trip? go specifically down anyway. 24 That was to go the down main BARBARA KORSCH-WARD #1 NB: She wanted to BK: She wanted to travel. phase of get that don't know there anyway, down or about That's interesting, ene plan gone She" the purpose I to I I was to documented. I she was to do wasn't it killed dof ‘a little going we think So information. trip whether do. wanted because that or might there. her experience come, she got of suggested we that down istone.’ gather she what good had The would pretty she anyway. Nixon's whether wondering NB: go started she had a this. even aware that two birds with traveling "and LERNwa'sEEEhait ks e rationale. BK: We probably the started plight changed of so widows, much, something a vacation that in my work that's how us when alone. and it then came Now, BK: HmEryingttolthink. NB: OF ;) "was BK: It was a because she know why tried to because So I--talking obviously combine up. But was part a vacations combine it's very we have it hard find vacation, anyway, about with to go something and that's maybe how it both. NB: was it way you professional on served that it? It of '79, wasn't it? W80 year before. Well, died? 25 do you know when Bernard BARBARA KORSCH-WARD NB: Yeahj"heldied BK: Well, I far NB: in think after after #1 the it fall was that. I of the '78. next don't year think or she it wasn't too that 1long lived him. No, she died in early '81, because she was sick in '80. So, whether not sure. NB: You can't BK: I BK: it anything. my from Machu able my rush off think it NB: That BK: Yeah, I I'm not I it calendar. six be he sent I have lot of The of I'm all sure the some postcards thing Bernard's within him might other Certainly, months sent You have calendars. people I'm '79 or early finally would be she didn't death. So year, I eighteen trying to 1980. think deownistherefMbu i ithen® hunch I'm don't my I does. them. somewhere late so. Trying '80, died. like think in I postcards. by would at any early know, whether date within My You everybody SEEMa sishoEM left. has or date? Picchu, after south. he work sounds '79 exact know Picchu. to from months if in season. don't son Machu the the I from be late remember remember Ask was to remember would sure. have I'll 26 of [dit'sh what it was been it was ask my son. the season. pretty like when February, He has a far we but better BARBARA KORSCH-WARD memory than #1 I NB: That BK: EEhinkiise. @ have to NB: should do. be letters Yeah. I would know February, awaguldn!t could when You BK: No, we didn't. NB: You just BK: Yeah, I Lima, and which everybody to think go with was. had landed does, some two to Machu go side trips on all that, cause by This was this not all little coupons and everything. chose just part of river a stay week archeological cultured. tourist know--she the I than into side there. in I wanted strictly went to I They was I told see all 27 also her the take went all spent a She we better wonderful hard I you but was beforehand, sights. gone and the a the have forest, more an with had had Then arranged. Galapagos, we in Cusco, did could to much she She things. a to Picchu. we rain think and she was. the started never You trip Lima. museum mean I packaged. trip taken to they went tour that was have sure We We it could just weeks. to tour. the I'm there. but on might else? group, down them. You anywhere only definitely organized children Peru. we amused The when. trip didn't went were was you that Peru. I tell quibble. double-check to there 1980. very working that would you go on BARBARA KORSCH-WARD some, out. and She not did had hard one that BK: And she What I She because were my the Spanish, convent, a very she was lot I some things. we had exciting. vacationing good time. of again with and was a worked ruins. interesting having of didn't a not she She a personality We two She or had would be hard-working? and compromise was she she in was extremely statements. characteristics and sort of maybe also but very very times her woman, characteristics, large that of judge so was show couple would her convictions people but for there it could you her? because tall how Inca of whether would misled, people the personality to remember to which really for effective, she Cusco in aspects just other think so her worked attribute BK: In various day or that's energy. was truthful. NB: us worker, of she and because Picchu, dinner tremendous So, went showed Machu cooking NB: we wonderful in a others, friends, who that days was and some people on everything. cathedrals, made #1 partly she affectionate. 28 sometimes I 1liked have to and were underneath, seem that because people--to energetic womanly much. when so to came she vaguely up was when really certain dance. She hard was BARBARA KORSCH-WARD NB: She liked BK: Used NB: Oh, BK: Yeah. NB: She BK: We to to #1 dance? dance. really? enjoyed dancing? danced dancing at with That was know whether NB: You don't BK: But I my nice say BK: No, I for so she be. he was had her six-foot-two. and I don't Fawn. They know, when everybody for not. huh? dancing with you kissing that remember little affectionate, around wasn't Now, or husband can was dancing, very she she danced my I because Bernard him went think would her. been everybody You husband, remember amusement, occasions. Bernard have NB: big remember do would the kind of a side too. really--yeah. was did reserved, you talk and to people her assumed sisters? Are she they alive? NB: Yes, BK: One I've of much be the--I think but them more saw. talked I used feminine don't She's was a all to of her sisters. know was much so on. Fawn always whether that was and know better Fawn that's to looking always and more considered reference. 29 I don't more outgoing seemed the know if to one feminine, more and you and intelligent, anybody ever I BARBARA KORSCH-WARD said NB: So, that. you aloof I say she either. good BK: way to think You And people which was made remember going her on a intimate. She you EoMcel MR didn't see would have a most begin twelve super or dinner. lady who very well. as you she wasn't that be reserved was her, seem They one a that and that she wouldn't and did worked--did NB: No, BK: ENdentRknewsritfashewils was another, fourteen She I she of it you us the she was. with I mind, dinner, She had her? She I was that me or didni't 1lots which very of courageous in people good thought, didn't to that had side have herself. talk all very we a bit and timel, " \we was for gushy. weren't intimate Fniice’ also we to little was than cause thought a remarkable al much, day, she allowed say, maybe who it with people the was were more remember very she because thinking know. do if act, think didn't with I mean I ELtnkkSSNWelEhad interfere Would didn't seem trip anybody, common. just just people proper. affectionate she her, just but it? somehow of affectionate, was describe know, afraid wasn't She she be. I #1 cook. but and and she she'd it one was Black knew her no. stillialave. 30 Wonderful lady-- BARBARA KORSCH-WARD Mrs. Kellen either, know. might and She #1 remember. whether would was very for parties. she get would her difficult and for They But be was alive she her, worked she did and or her so not not I don't cleaning. she'd together young get just It her in spectacular parties. NB: It's a Black woman that would come up there and help out? BK: Just one NB: Just whenever BK: They never care of house didn't NB: The day, yeah. they had the parties? 1live-in garden alone. They drive fancy woman had was help. alone, I and didn't think she spoil Bernard took care themselves, took of the and they cars. mainly there when they had parties and that? BK: That's about something. may loved it, I have helped Fawn, was a she really she did. than she don't a and respectfully, Fawn or very anybody. trying little when Fawn of know. decent course She and she fought She a I'm Fawn you once know, thought She came was very could for went Shlt to this see week to was to She sick She a her very to You and Park her. know, difference, Mountain Braude too. devoted idealistic. make or remember. treated very clean and harder politicked BARBARA KORSCH-WARD to have people scenery Which very park if gate. I left, there and go mean if is which go Bernard up were there was a little--did were that being and because deserved make it a a NB: What's BK: Gee, NB: Topangos? BiEEs No, I the supposed is eleven road the and liked by drive just at it. the the end they residents natural credit see of the were was getting and time They that When go upset I up about think the put little road? very the Eawn a wanted to resource. for on area There and the break roads this also on and developers. beyond that, a in fire fire miles, everybody you of Fawn state to the state park? know. something that There this the park. EhnnkaiMyafison definite of like of name don't it's for to adive ryibeautiful menaced it's lot end the up 18tVs the state the fought to to--it's developing hill, she further gate. lot development they it, little fire ihull this not you up it the a goes when new up a s Ehe walked support that? you crestlo to hard. is Well, road #1 like Santa fcoullditel1S they to have drive a up 312 Monica iyous ranger there, Mountain better than station, and the Park, T.* and Sierra I TEtl's you're Club BARBARA KORSCH-WARD hikes up #1 there and meaningful thing to NB: So, go and BK: Well, people people are sixty there. NB: Where BK: If up It's do you the come to walk It's really a very around. like seventy Friday cars. They there a night, go up and and there hike up beautiful. they park? want the Is spirit ten, fifteen loved that. It's get, this. community. here about you all the of parking Fawn minutes beautiful more you lot? you up ought there, scenery, see of walk because and the to the ocean. she higher She 1loved thisghailds, NB: So, BK: Just people park walk, deserted this and in once those remember preserving she was days that. I can go walk hiking and They it. are there think There must leading loved she spirit, monument to people talk very strongly about if should the 33 more things like bicyclists now, the her. I this author, She be been and Bernard trail, that. you a the Fawn could have of and of over of up there. some weren't. kind look in lot that's you up walkers a went really really the just There horses and then professional Club. took that, you areas, Sierra but and fought credited others too, know. So mean the hill. Leon and I I for with but think old time Don't know Feuchtwanger, BARBARA KORSCH-WARD cause the #1 fact that his family afthefspeei altldistinctiionst died this last year, days.---?---. drove of by Her it. very They good books tax purposes. and the German have it too. Education was the lot about and of the same so well. BK: And Tony she was phases; I we and a I was had that that's of Howard who were got have, lot a good who but corner, There would he was and children, Fawn know Dick he knew has a and some Bernard information. be source longer-standing, know, friendly I 34 I came neighbor surprising when cultural friends. who of want bit; would You They the although a it, community, their Kellen, bought very good You ago it. at those years Wilson lived just editions USC this are I to one hill. first fighting part as the University think, a up of people much a way The quite was. in much. have Johnson than sick, me famous artistic Konrad must very is they memories gave Fawn's then I maybe You he mean very was donated UCLA and Shew Dean literary that, Bruce, Yes, at corner, that NB: was is hill. the was there whole enjoyed were here sthis collection think That Dean sharp a up of half government Then the is that I set-up. of he villa have for to but lived really better in for trip. knew for on a many Then her. Fawn. friend of couple of years, when I she Otherwise, and was I BARBARA KORSCH-WARD was not one respected NB: She BK: Oh was her her like strong yeah. strong of me a #1 Not she friends feminist. about at respected advocate the feeling best silly But of of yet, think she women. rights? women's it 1lib, didn't and I professional women's kind cooking all. but very interfere having with children and all a feeling eEREhatt NB: At the same about BK: her ESSnowss time role she as a seemed mother S EhatisiBwhya things, but she el just to have and as a [sayisnot didn't strong wife. Ehe like silily akind! oppression of of any thought was kind. NB: Maybe not BK: the kind liking For she Oh, BK: Especially NB: I've gotten high expectations I that of entered any fought relationship NB: BK: pattern oppression freedom complex a kind. in with her various her ways. She had a children. really? think one. Dick. bits he This was is and for all to hearsay brilliant, you I that. and know Were the there really telling Meifs he's where 35 be I'm foravany probably don't on quite him? supposed memasialsourcelt saw. pieces thisi a I good got the you. el brilliant Don't ‘thinks use he lils looking man, as notion that he BARBARA KORSCH-WARD was their #1 favorite verycliose 3" M child, think or at #thath it ONE OF least they “must, were very, all such 1like relationships-[END BK: He probably him. And OF had SIDE tremendous because of two things. interested remember may her be a He have and BK: I happen and it was me in perfect brilliant that him, you easy in different Swedish, big Swedish. know man. they must with either. a He he'd a He's a been mother like also a between teacher. and I studied when be he has a a very, tremendous a that, big and very--as there, addressed good-looking. have 36 day so there Yeah. must expected was been it her and languages one He that, So because surprise and I enjoying musician. languages. end. but really of Sweden very the forget, and good was pictures, I image very guess young which' especially not a his death, visual a speak of she toward paintings different to me proud these for lout very was all s EhiiinkdShe s Eriled to like on you especially very art--I spoke facility he ' SoMI placed that, art, latest a parents seemed Bernard's his while music NB: being me I for his after showing them. in It expectations famous knewsEl SR Eou ghianywaye various TAPE] I'm amount burden. Bernard you know very sure of And was from BARBARA KORSCH-WARD all your #1 interviews--successful respected. It must have been writer, something expert to try and to live kids, and that was upttal. NB: Yeah, not BK: it must just ISt of hard o alll "Pam ‘was nkfirst think She that others. than was one Bruce Dick. the seems But true, I do. must added NB: Having BK: So NB: Yeah, two hard, be I you Those yeah. think have a of a the a done very tough to can be a be. in of very imagine Powerhouses, NB: Yeah. Oh 317 know that the about don't family, I career much I so to that calmer know which all distinguished it. parents. [laugh] think. You know, that those famous what yes. much being I Often harder a wrinkle what lot it complex famous two. BK: a somebody of-- and easygoing. had parents would girl, relationship. special lot a really had very it have you all very have the That's They So, on takes don't they very, envious to of but families have always sibling complexities what's NB: kind Dick. different. BK: be it it gets situation, studies child, would to even be easy but yet, show it's just 1like to to one. have BARBARA BK: KORSCH-WARD They all 1love about | £his burden, NB: to and it special hill. And it's so has Yeah. NB: Whereas BK: Well, Dick NB: Yes. BK: Bernard was. the away. I have been know. group. the special hill, because to it. They didn't to it. It's just a mystique about it, and one that's managed to stay stayed in so it for Dick that studio. here stayed the moved up The hill We loved guess to I else. [laughter] Yeah, that's parents himself. know Yeah, the on a return two-- don't you have thing Did want a very I you guess here. see that when that studio? And have whole to other built who the all born attached almost the beautiful so It's kids been try been too. Those having been leave hill hill. also BK: BK: the everybody's Bruce NB: #1 it why don't in that. most. I a entertain spoils the for kids mind, 38 one I But so to all much us and another probably don't because think Bruce know it's lot know but don't now, meant don't that, about here I we and the lived to people too, that and whole all the- anywhere leave. other went Janet bigger living 1like he But places BARBARA KORSCH-WARD first, you very know. hard to something NB: Sure. BK: She NB: It BK: Oh, NB: What was of a them. Oh dog the first If take a you walk makes want up it to the do hill. she yeah. big a part in is I'm senator. What NB: Richard Rutto? BK: Marvin Braude. it is. Representative. we would it In a life--and lot walk, days it park, this but hill. that. crusade preserve Senator as a This became to walk walked those a her. think preserving full was to I walking. Fawn's sure used they walks. until that and She about Anyway, them for cared me. and love poodle. days here, of a those for here real mean have in up 1locals was really remember up involved I her I the had they dogs walk a she that's comes was it? think and hill. yeah. was had to mostly Oh I talk, used really BK: a who Dog nature So, here else. memory her. dog, everybody NB: up there. poodle. Everybody was dog adored wonderful on anywhere Fawn's the kind they growing Atasha? they She But go for walked was #1 She Braude--he's was it. not a he? B-r-a-u-d-e. parties Yeah, for 319 him. He's she our local knew him whatever well, and BARBARA KORSCH-WARD NB: What was BK: He NB: Things his still #1 name? is in that power. she'd do specifically in fighting for the haailR I think she gathered know physically signatures they were went and meeting to she at visit him, organized her house. and she meetings. I I think he was association on the there. NB: Gathered signatures. BK: We have still hill. I think she that went much So she did BK: To promote the quite Do you they BK: I I we but I that. personally, I of mean names some Any of the hill and their in the of and they the knew dinners a were psychoanalytic, lot met there or Konrad would be famous RAND where source 40 Braude associates, else, for I figures that illuminaries. Greenson meeting of a political the analysts, remember a vehicles, circles. the had than him with entertained? know, I knew remember people. the welfare studded remember of and people. RAND one things. important political, NB: was health She homeowners further various countryside. of those think NB: lot all and there. and wouldn't that. They all those I which don't ones remember. were much BARBARA KORSCH-WARD closer that than #1 I was. As I say, I was a friend, but not close. NB: Well, BK: That's I think all Just be don't mix we've I've sure up gone got. that with I've these over allotted given you sort of facts. [END OF TAPE] 41 our more time. than I suppositions know. you QURRICULWM VITAE BARBARA M. 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Grant Foundation 1983 "MulticenterComparison of Aluminum |buprofen Suspension and Acetaminophen Liquid in Pediatric Antipyresis" Upjohn Company 1987 The Content & Process of Medical Attending Rounds, Intramural Grant, Childrens Hospital of Los Angeles 1987 The Teaching Rounds 1986 of Crant, Behavioral Pediatrics Department Publ ic Heal th 1987 Interpersonal Intramural MCH, USC of School Skills of Training Health and and Mary 13 Attending Medicine Human Communication Press During Program Services Doctor-Patient Morris Decision Making Foundation Resources B BL | OCRAPHY Peer Review Korsch Journals: BV, Pediatr, Fraad L, and 44:703-717, Barnett HL: Pediatric BM: Practical in pediatric Pediatr techniques practice as 18:467-490, Pediatr Korsch Cobb K, demonstrated HL: The 1961 and 27:990-1003, BM: Guest pediatricians in BM: 92-98, 1964 in an attitude Ashe departments, physician, B: some the Pediatricians' advising parents project. problems and requiring the appraisals Editorial. Unique training. Amer potential of J Dis Child of outpatient child further with patient's study. nephrosis. intelligence. psychiatry in general and satisfaction. Francis Pediatr V: Gaps in 42:855-871, for 1962 approach to meeting 34:133-136, 1964 practice. Korsch EK, experience 103:11I-114, JB, Gozzi EK, and Carlson PV: J Public Health 55:1880-1888, patient study family Korsch BM, Christian A pilot study. Amer Gozzi and outpatient 1961 Preventive BM, groups. in a childrens' interviewing Blumgart E and Korsch BM: Pediatric recreation: An emotional needs of hospitalized children. Pediatr Korsch parent 1956 Korsch BM and Barnett J Pediatr 58:707-714, BM, of pediatrics of observing, Korsch BM: Pediatric outpatient Pediatr 23:162-165, 1959 Korsch with 1954 Korsch BV, and Levine SZ: CGCraduate teaching department. Pediatr l4:171-174, 1954 Korsch discussions Amer Infant 1965 Acad care doctor-patient Gen and the Prac 30: punishment: communication: Doctor- 1968 Francis V, Korsch BM, and Morris MJ: Gaps in doctor-patient communication: Patients' response to medical advice. New Engl J Med 280:535-540, 1969 Implications for nursing practice Amer J Nursing 69:529-533, 1969 Cozzi EK, Morris MJ, and Korsch BM: doctor-patient communication study. Korsch BM, families Fine and RN, V, Francis and in a hemodialysis Korsch Lieberman E: BM, Stiles Renal Fine and Q, RN: Critical kidney Riddell periods transplant H, homotransplantation program. Edelbrock HH, in children. 14 and children for their 208:204, JAVA Brennan in a LP, J Pediatr 1969 Grushkin 76:347-359, v, 1970 Fine RN, Amer J Dis Korsch BM, Grushkin QM, Lieberman E: Hemodialysis in children. 1970 119:498-504, Child and Korsch BM, Freemon B, and Negrete VF: Practical implications of doctor-patient interaction analysis for pediatric practice. Amer J Dis Child 121:110-114, 1971 Freemon B, Negrete BM, visits? Davis Negrete Amer VF, J Dis M, and Korsch Mercer Child AS, and and Mercer AS: Nurse conferences for Amer J Nursing 72:1866-1871, 1972 well-child Fine RN, Korsch BV, Riddel| H, Stiles QR, and Grushkin QM: Second renal transplants 20 Korsch Gardner JE, Edelbrock HH, in children. Weinstock CL, Fine RN: Kidney transplantation in children: and family. J Pediatr 83:399-408, 1973 232 24, Grushkin QW, 869-873, 1972 Korsch BM: Korsch The 146-148, KBM, andFine pediatrician's 1973 (Marginal RN: Hemodialysis approach to his The Armstrong Lecture. Physicians, Child 127:328-332, 1974 26. Korsch BM: Teaching 27. Korsch BM: The 28. Werner ER and 295 Fine RN, Pediatr child and the operating Korsch BM: The vulnerability Edelbrock Uittenbogaart interviewing. L.L. CH Stephens' HH, and Mercer AS, Grushkin in followup small QM, study children. patient. 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MH, Proceedings 1973 Malekzadeh MH, Pennisi AJ, Uittenbogaart CH, Korsch BM, Fine RN: Current pediatric renal transplantation Ped Clin No Amer 23:857-872, 1976 Malekzadeh renal adults. 2312 RN, 1972 1973 illnesses Congress, for Sci in pediatric chronisch career 1985 J, Richmond BM, Cont to Pediatr, teaching developmental and 18 Simmons J: When somatic complaints 1985 residents behavioral behavioral and pediatrics psychological 6:331-354, 1985 33. Korsch 1985 BM: Physician-patient communication. 34, Korsch BM: Strengthening therapeutic 35. Korsch BM: Handle 36. Korsch BM: Remarks 37. Korsch BM et al: with from the care. Masters the outgoing Anticipating in Resident alliance. Pediatr president. guidance in 19 Advisor Contem |:13-16, J Dev safety. Beh 2:CPC Communications, Pediatr 4:93-106, 1987 1987 Pediatr Audiotape, 7:147, Pediatr 1986 Basics, 1987 Books, Chapters Korsch and BM: Year Korsch Articles Psychologic sick child. 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(In Press) Saunders, presentations (includes post-graduate Symposium: Effects Institute, September, education, of Hospitalization medical on Children. and San paramedical Francisco Pediatric Pediatric Urologic Symposium: Nephrology. Seminar: Pediatric Paris, 1972, France, 1973, Hemodialysis. 1974, Lund August, 1975, Program. Review Dying May, Pediatrics Topic: The Chronic Disease. 197 Lund, Johns Child. Sweden, Hopkins USC March, 1972 University, School of Medicine, 1972 Multidisciplinary May, Child Care Conference. Indiana University, Indianapolis, Indiana, 1972 Seminar: Fresno The Art of Medicine. Community Intermi ttent Art Course. with 1976 University, Participant, Pediatric Clinical Scholar Baltimore, Maryland, April, 1972 of Psychoanalytic 1970 Pediatric Grand Rounds: Psychological Adjustment of Children University of California, San Francisco, September, 1970 Symposium: groups) Hospital, Hemodialysis Workshop, National Cystic Fibrosis Clinic Physicians California, Pediatric Research Centre Illinois, October, Measurement of November, 1973 1972 Heidelberg, Audio-Visual D.C., Center, March, Physician-Patient Germany, June, Atlanta, Georgia, 1972 September, 1972 1973 Communication. Edouard South of Paris, Pediatrics Annual Communication May, in Hemodialysis Problems Rist, Her of Medicine, USC School Psychologfcal and PNP The Course: Center, and Training Academy June, Communication. Laguna, 1973 Hospitalier American in Physician/Patient California, Washington, Seminar: on Gaps in Childhood, Practitioner Nurse Third Workshop Fresno, Medical Congress. March, Topic: France, Meeting. May, 1973 Round Table with Patients. 1973 and Transplant on Screening. in Children. Chicago, 1973 Outcome Workshop. Washington/Alaska Regional Evaluation of Psychosocial 1973 Seattle, Washington, University Medical Factors of Rochester, Rochester, New York, Program. Pediatric Nephrology_Program—- ‘ in Treatment Outcome. University of Washington, 24 Seminar: UCLA, Doctor-Patient November, 1974 20. Visiting Professor, Interesting Phoenix, Phoenix Hospitals and Perplexing Arizona, Communications. Cases October, Affiliated and Breakdown Third International Symposium September/October, 1974 of 2. Symposium: Practicing Toledo, 23. Ohio, National of Los for the September, Meeting Los Pediatric Program. in Doctor-Patient Communications. Pediatric Nephrology. Physician. Washington, Medical D.C., College Research Angeles, Nurses California, and Dietitians. September, 257 Association Child. 26. Sixth May, Children's Care Memorial International 28. Pediatric Nephrology January, 1975 Advisory Council, Massachusetts, |llinois, on Transplantation. Fogarty Seminar: The of Child, Chronically May/June, University Radcliffe January, 1] 1974 Lyon, Lyon, France, Pediatric Nurse Associate Program, 32. Symposium: The Family--Can It Be 33. Association for the Care Decision-Making. Downey, 34, 20th Annual Role Advisory of Pediatric Children Council, Massachusetts, May, Programs in Health of Health, Aspects. Care. Bethesda, Miami, Florida, Cambridge, 1975 Sl New Institute Uremia--Psychosocial Institute Symposium: What's Center-National Chronic 30. 35% Chicago, Session: II1 1974 Chronic |llness Seminar. Maryland, May, 1974 The in Hospitals. Hospital, Course 2 29. of Children Hospital 1974 67th Ross Conference on Pediatric Research, Care of the Chronically Spruce Point Inn, Boothbay Harbor, Maine, June, 1974 the of Ohio, Childrens 24, for Discussion: (974 of Clinical Angeles, California, 1974 Ale Pediatrics Los Angeles, Communications in Hospitals. April, 1975 of Children California, Annual Decision-Making. Radcliffe Institute Gap. Angeles, Programs 1975 25 Tucson, Role Symposium: California, in Health Care. 1975 1975 April, of Children Informed May, 1975 April, Arizona, Pennsylvania, Session: Psychiatric Los January, Washington, Philadelphia, Saved? Symposium-7th in Seattle, '75. Pediatrics in 1975 Cambridge, in Consent- 36. Crand Rounds: California, 37. Texas Doctor-Patient June, Pediatric Communication. Society. The Family Physician 38. Symposium: Los 39. First Body 40. International Function. with Conference May, 42. 43, Congress the Look on Novemrber, Amsterdam, for a to Pediatric California, Association Past 41, Team Approach Angeles, to Bone on The Care of the Chronic |llness in Childhood, Problem, and Chronic Renal Disease, Impact on Patient, Family and Health Childrens Hospital of Los Angeles, 1975 Counselling: Netherlands, Children April, Transplantation Child D.C., in Adjustment to Loss of Major 1976 in Hospitals: Washington, Radcliffe Massachusetts, May, Harvard of School Health Institute Health May, 1976 Children. East Care--A Lansing, Review of the Michigan, Public Health. Curriculum. Services Harvard National Commission Heal th, Washington, 45. Aspen Biosciences Communications Aspen, Colorado, October, 1976 46. Family Health 47. Clinical 48. Villejuif December, 1497 Program Long Cancer 1976 Institute: Children's of Hospital Care. Handicapped Cambridge, Internship. Columbia, January, 1977 Pediatric Urologic Seminar: Children. Childrens Dallas, Rounds: Hospital Texas, of Los Problems Angeles, 26 Los Los Angeles, of Medico the 1976 November, Paris, Workshop: Pediatrics, of 1976 Medicine. Akros Nurses. Patients. January, Vulnerability Psychosocial of at Cancer Board Institutes in Clinical and June, 1976 of California American National Process October, of Designing Massachusetts, Subjects. Physicians the Rehabilitation Children: Canmbridge, Decision to University Conference, Grand Seminar: California, Beach, Program. Enrichment for University, Rapport Patient Scholars Directors' in Health for the Protection of Human D.C., September, 1976 Program: Inc., Enterprises, Programs 1976 4y, 51, and Dialysis. Patient Future. Marrow Council, a Public 50. Torrance, 1976 Advisory and Hospital, 1975 September, Texas, Houston, Team. General 1975 Informed Consent by Children: An Emerging Hemodialysis, and Kidney Transplantation: Care Harbor France, Analysis 1977 Vancouver, British Transplantation in Intern. Following Angeles, California, January, 1977 52. Association for the Decision Making Washington, 83. Fourth Care Children in Children. February, Annual of Children's Hospital Pacific and Medical D. Stanford McCormmick University Distinguished Medical Center, 55. Pediatric 56. Postgraduate Kauikeolani Neonatal-Respiratory Risk Seminar. Theme: Childrens Disease Ambulatory Hospital, Division Infant, the Newborn, the Los Angeles, Los Angeles, California, Parent, and the Unexpected Risks Childrens 60. Crand November, Children's Hospital, Boston, at California with Los Drug in Children Therapy Los Angeles, Massachusetts, American Medical Association Workshop: Mental Health Children. San Diego, California, January, 1978 62. Pediatric Clinical Los California, Angeles, for Association the Care January, Chapter Conference: Stress and the Professional. Los Angeles, California, January, 1978 Fami |y Health January, Doctor-Patient Program: Illness Disease. 1977 December, in Dysfunctional Medical Cedars-Sinai 1978 California Southern in Hospitals, of Children and Communication. Doctor-Patient Conference: Chronic with California, Angeles, 6l. 64, of Women in and Career QVE-| Year. 1977 Boston Noncompliance of University 63. of 1977 Rounds: Center, the High Update 1977: Impact of Uremia on Child and Family. University Francisco, San Francisco, California, October, 1977 Professorship. November, for of 1977 Association of American Medical Colleges Annual Meeting. Meeting Medicine: Traditional Residency Training: The Impact on Personal Decisions and The Readiness of New M.D. Craduates to Enter Their Visiting 1977 1977 Hospital 58. 59. University September, Pediatric Nephrology of California at San D.C., April, of Psychosocial Care. Hawaii, Staff. in Doctor-Patient Analysis 1977 57. Washington, Seattle, California, Pediatric Honolulu, Symposium: Caps Stanford, American Pediatric Society Annual Meeting. Presentation: Aspects of Internship. San Francisco, California, April, and Affiliate: Center, Lecture: 54. Hawaii Northwest 1977 Katherine Communication. in Hospitals, Childrens Conmmunication. Long Hospital Beach, of Regional Los Angeles, California, 1978 65. Visiting Professorship. February, 1978 66. Chaplaincy Service University Hospital, University Symposium: Stanford, of Pittsburgh, Communication California, 27 Pittsburgh, in a Critical March, 1978 Care Pennsylvania, Setting. Stanford 67. 68. 69. American Chairmen Academy of Pediatrics, on Committee: Children APS-SPR-Apa Services Region IX Ambulatory Advisory July, I Chairperson Research. Hospital Board New Editorial of Los Angeles, Robert Meeting: Health of Health, Wood April, Johnson Sciences and 1978 Pediatric Angeles, Learning Education Society for 4. European Society for Medical 5. Advisory Board November, 1978 76. Crand Rounds: California, American Chapel Housestaff California, June, Foundation. Systems. North Health American Education. Robert Wood Stanford Education. 1978 Boston, Massachusetts, Hilton Head, South Carolina, Krakow, Krakow, Warsaw, Johnson Poland, Poland, Poland, September, School Boston, 1978 1978 September, Foundation, University September, 1978 Massachusetts, of Medicine, Stanford, 1978 Carolina, for Wel fare. Education. Pediatrics, of Pediatric Program: Inc. Task January, Research. February, California, Carmel, February, Denver, Noverrber, Society Western Family Committee, Board and Pediatric Noncompliance. Hill, Section, 80. York, Behavioral Member, United States delegation to Poland for Joint Symposium: Medical Education. Sponsored by the Bureau of Health Manpower, Health Resources Administration, European 795 Los session: Meeting of Section California, April, 1978 73 78. New Pediatric ASsociation: Committee, Board Department 7. York, for Development. Los Angeles, 1978 July, 22 Meeting. Health Chi ldrens 70. Annual Section on Child with Handicaps. Doctor-Patient Force on Growth and Development. 1979 Development Chairperson, and Behavior 1979 Long Communication. Beach, California, 1979 Board of Pediatrics Colorado, April, Workshop: Righting Patient Management Problems, 1979 Harbor Conmunication. General Hospital, Los Angeles, gl Grand Rounds: Doctor-Patient California, April, 1979 82. Enfants 83. Second International Congress on Patient Counselling. Chairperson, Section on Training and Counsel ling of Health Professionals. Title: Counselling Health Malades Professionals Hospital: in Training. Consultant. Amsterdam, Paris, The France, Netherlands, 28 April, May, 1979 1979 1978 84, 85. Association for the Coping the Feelings. with Project Ceneral Care of Children Wright in Hospitals: Institute, Los First Directors and Advisory Committee, Robert Pediatrics Academic Development Program. Adolescent 87. Infant Nutrition New York, 88. Symposium. September, Ambulatory Visiting Ohio, 90. Review State Division, Los Visiting Professor, St. 92. Visiting Professor, Strong 93. International Crand Congress Spain, Rounds, 95. 9972 Learning of Minnesota, Systems. Los Angeles, Department New York IdylIwild, City, California, of Pediatrics, Disease in Pediatric of Southern Angeles, Hospital, May, Montreal, Hospital, Practice, California, California, Pediatrics: September, Professor, Visiting Colurbus, School Tenth Annual of Medicine 1980 Canada, Rochester, Psychosocial The May, New Aspects (980 York, June, of Chronic 1980 |llness. 1980 of Heidelberg, Program. Essen, York, Visiting NY, Counselling Germany, Grand February, 1981 February, Grand November, of Patients September, and Their Families 1980 Rounds, November, and Harvard [980 University Center, Medical 1980 New Professor, Rounds, D.C., Chi Idrens Boston February, Pediatric Medical Washington, Massachusetts, Stubenboard New 98. of Problems Memorial of Communication, Boston, 9. University Medical /Surgical Grand Rounds, University of Washington, School of Medicine and Chi ldrens Orthopedic Hospital & Medical Center: Infant Nutrition and DoctorPatient 96. 1979 Wood Johnson Foundation, Princeton, New Jersey, September Conference. Health University, Justine University in a Chronic by Hospital University gl 94. Sponsored to Behavior Pediatrics. Barcelona, June, 1979 Childrens Ohio Approach Postgraduate California, 1979 November, of Care Child: 1979 Professor, A Practical Health Il 1979 Conference, October /November, 89. and September, Minisota, is, Minneapol Medicine Seriously Angeles, 1979 86. The York Hospital, Cornell Medical Center, Cornell Medical Center, New 198l New New York York Hospital, Hospital, Cornell 1981 29 Medical Center, New York, York, NY, NY, ’ 100. Attending Rounds, New York Hospital, [0l. Keynote Speaker, 9th Annual Days Bridge Children's Health Center, IIth Annual Pediatric 103. American Academy Communication. 105. Rounds, Medical Speaker, Castle, Stirling, Hospital of May, for 108. Visiting Illness. 109. Keynote Paris, New York, March, 1982 Grand Rounds: 1742 University (i3 Learning of Chronic France, Wisconsin, Glasgow, |llness September, Infant: Day, Einstein May, 198 Scotland, Stirling in Children. Hospitaux de 198l Stresses Issues on in the Health Infant University Systems Washington, May, Professor, Medical Profession. Development, Medical March, 1982 in conjunction with York, and Mead Johnson Center, on Renal of Children New Center, York, Dialysis. Robert Wood New New York, Pharmaceuticals: York, University Einstein Johnson‘Foundation, Philadelphia, Communication. Doctor-Patient Infant Communication. Nutrition. University of Kentucky, 30 University of Kentucky, Louisville, Kentucky, : Pennsylvania, 1982 Grand Rounds: Doctor-Patient Kentucky, April, 1982 (155 Visiting Milwaukee, Children, University New York, Program: Scholars Health in Doctor-Patient 198 Issues Pennsylvania, 1982 Breakdowns Speaker: Doctor-Patient Communication and Chronic Health Center, Annual Meeting on Artbulatory Care, Barnett Einstein New March, Tacoma, Iy, of Program: and Applied 1981 October, Behavioral Center, in Doctor-Patient 1982 Professor, March, Clinical Henry Gaps Mary 198I the High Risk Minnesota, Speaker, Sick Aspects Professor and Keynote Minneapolis Childrens Minneapolis, Medical NY, 198I| September, UCLA Extension Course on Clinical Los Angeles, California, October, 110. Visiting New York, 198l May, of Wisconsin, Publique, Care of Medicine: Scientific Wisconsin, Psychosocial Lecturer: School California, Scotland, Assistance 107. CGuest USC College Royal Lecturer: Paris, Center, of Pediatrics:The Handicapped Child. Tacoma, Washington, March, 198| of Pediatrics, Oshkosh, Keynote 106. Cuest Review, Angeles, Los Communication. 104. Ward Medical 1981 February, 102. Cornell Louisville, Apri 1, 1982 [16. Arbulatory Pediatric Association Meeting: Behavioral Clinical Implications. Washington, D.C., May, 1982 117. Visiting Professor, Nutrition. 118. Visiting Chronic 119. the Seattle, Padova, Milan, 120. Visiting Professor, Aspects of Children Chi ldren 121. with Chronic Care. Family Psychosocial September, Problems Impact of Chronic Illness ltaly, September, 1982 Disease. Brussels, Germany, September, and Johnson and University of Colorado Communication Workshop: Doctor-Patient Colorado Springs, Colorado, Lecture, American Academy of Pediatrics Continuing Education Program: Death and Meeting, Decision 126. Council Florida, 127 New York Patient June, March, October, for 1982 Pediatric Roundtable Communication-Acute 1982 Medical Medical Center. Center. Sponsored Sponsored by 1983 Pediatric Department Chairmen: Phoenix, Arizona, March, 1983 Societies:Doctor-Patient Specialty Communication. Lauderdale, Fort 1983 Academy Education: Conference Medicine, of Model Approaches on Role the to Patient Academic of Education. in Medicine Tarrytown, New York, 1983 128. Conference Participant, Albert Einstein Pediatricians for Care of Children with 129, Conference, Chronic Childhood Current Issues in Comprehensive Virginia, September, 1983 130. with and Los Angeles Pediatric Society Dying. Los Angeles, California, January, Association of Medical School Making by Pediatric Trainees. of Medical of Children in Childhood-Implications 123. Crand Rounds, Wright State University/Childrens Journal of Pediatrics, October, 1982 125. Annual Career Infant 1982 122. Visiting Professor, Wright State University/Childrens by Journal of Pediatrics, October, 1982 124, Practice: 1982 of Padova: ltaly, of and University of Brussels European Working Group on Psychosocial with Chronic Renal Failure: Psychosocial Rehabilitation of Presentation, Johnson #8, Child Health Care Chi ld Heal th Academy May, University Psychosocial Clinician. Services Washington, Professor, |llIness. Lecture: Uniformed Pediatrics-Research Universitatsklinikun of Chronic !llness. Essen, Essen, College of Medicine: Special Needs. National Care for Children Chirugische Germany, Klinik und 1983 August, 31 New York, Institute Illness, Education Polinik: New York, of Child with Chronic of June, Heal th: Iliness. Psychosocial Leesburg, Aspects 1983 131. Freie Universitat Poliklinik: 132. Berein, Universitatsklinikun Doctor-Patient Communication. 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Meeting. 1985 on Behavioral March, Panel Staff of Rochester: March, Pediatrics: Advisory Presentation: Long Term Chronic Invited Participant, National Institute of Mental Health-Clinical Research Branch, Research Workshop on Assessment and Psychosocial Therapies for Childhood Psychopathology, Department of Health and Human Services. Chevy Chase, Maryland, September, 1985 [53. Chi ldhood Obesity Conference, Co-sponsored by California Hospital Center for Heal th Education & Research and Child Health Disability Prevention Program: Practical Components 154, Midwestern Institute Regional of Mental and Families Their 155. Ninth Clinical Psychosocial 156. [58. Society Los Rounds: Angeles, |5 Years. 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