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Show INTERNIEW: Gary Shumway with Albert Lyman, July 31, 1968. Page 4 then I looked down the gun barrel of his father. He held me there, pulling me over on the counter with his left hand and pointing his six shooter at me with his right. So I didn't feel very kindly towards them and when I saw that trial I was just thoroughly disgusted. S: Now the Mormon people in 1915 had a pretext for prosecuting these people. Tse- na- ghat had killed Juan Chacon, a sheepherder belonging to, or working for L. H. Redd. And yet they didn't do anything in 1915. They were unwilling to do anything, and y3t in 1923, just over the stealing of a few sheep, or killing of a few sheep which had gone on before, they did rise up and solved the problem. Why this unwillingness in 1915? Did the injection of the Mexican Mormon element in the meantime, even though they were already here in 1915, they were in Blanding, and not in Bluff. Did this play any important role or were there other factors that entered in to the difference there? L: I don't think their coming here had anything to do with that. It was done on the reservation. It was a government affair and this had to be taken up by the outside. It wasn't our business. It was a federal offense. That's the reason that the trial was in Denver, I went there to that trial because it was a federal trial. But the Mexican people didn't have anything to do with that at all, but when this came up in ' 23, this fight was forced on us, and right |
