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Show INTERVIEW: Gary Schumway with Albert Lyman, July 31, 1968. Page 7 to stay here.' Well, the Utes found out that we were their friends. They didn't have anybody to defend them. They were whipped as they had never been before and they were shut up in a bull pen. And when they saw that through our influence that they were still going to stay in this country, they just came out of there with extended hands. And we met them with kindness towards them. We were sorry that any of them had been killed, but we acknowledged the hand of Providence in saving us from them because their crack shots took dead aim at us and couldn't hit us, and didn't hit us. And when we met them there, since that time we've been very friendly with them, and we're friends with them now. I've known these people and I knew their fathers and their grandfathers and I've seen them grow up here and know who they are and I think that we have achieved our purpose here both with the Navajos and the Paiutes, we've made friends of them. And we couldn't have won them with anything but friendship, but they misunderstood our friendship, these Paiutes. They were actually like spoiled children. We came here giving them things and helping them out and every time there was a holiday they would come around for us to give them special gifts. Well, we just made a mistake in being so good to them. If we had been more on a business basis with them, and had them work for what they were doing, it would have been |