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Title Volume 08, Number 3, 4, Autumn-Winter 1973
Subject Periodicals; Mormons; Religious thought; Philosophy and religion
Description Independent national quarterly established to express Mormon culture and examine the relevance of religion to secular life. It is edited by Mormons who wish to bring their faith into dialogue with human experience as a whole and to foster artistic and scholarly achievement based on their cultural heritage. The journal encourages a variety of viewpoints; although every effort is made to insure accurate scholarship and responsible judgment, the views expressed are those of the individual authors and are not necessarily those of the Mormon Church or of the editors.
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Date 1973
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Source Dialogue: Vol 8 No 3, 4
Description 74 I Dialogue 73Divine Mission of the Savior, Course of Study for the . . . Priests (2nd year), prepared and issued under the direction of the general authorities of the Church (1910), p. 35. The statement to this point was reprinted in the Church News section, Deseret News, September 19,1936, p. 8, and is often quoted as though complete in itself. 7iIbid, p. 37. The manual at this point cites three statements, one each from Brigham Young (JD, 1:50); Parley P. Pratt (Key to Theology); and Orson Pratt (JD, 21:201). No attempt is made in the manual to capture the complete thought of these statements; particularly the sermons of President Young and Orson Pratt reveal some fundamental differences in total content and concept. In fairness, it must also be admitted that major sentiments in both these sermons were severely compromised by statements of subsequent presidencies. 75Era, 1^:^70, April 1910. 76Era, 14:548-551, April 1911. Further details of the case are found in Chamberlin, R. V., Life and Philosophy of W. H. Chamberlin (Salt Lake City: Deseret News Press, 1925), pp. I4of. In this rather trying incident, three BYU faculty members, Henry Peterson, Joseph Peterson, and Ralph V. Chamberlin, resigned under pressure. 77]uvenile Instructor, 46(4) 1208-209, April 1911. 78Deseret News, December 27, 1913, Sec. Ill, p. 7; reprinted in the Church News section of Deseret News, September 19, 1936, pp. 2, 8. 79The best single account is deCamp, L. S., The Great Monkey Trial (Garden City, N. Y.: Doubleday and Co. Inc., 1968). 80Era, 28:1090-1091, September 1925. The understandable sympathy of the LDS people for the general religious position in the 1925 Scopes episode is reflected in the remarks of various speakers, both general authorities and otherwise, during the October General Conference (cf. LDS General Conference Reports, October, 1925). Of the First Presidency, however, counselor Charles W. Nibley made no reference to the matter; President Heber J. Grant went no further than to recall favorable impressions of William Jennings Bryan, the chief religious spokesman (and prosecutor) at the Scopes trial, who died shortly after the trial. Anthony W. Ivins, first counselor, addressed the topic of evolution directly and at some length, essentially articulating a middle-of-the-road position. The speech (ibid., pp. 19-28) is too loaded with hypothetical statements and qualifiers to be easily categorized. 81Smith, Joseph Fielding, "Faith Leads to a Fulness of Truth and Righteousness," Utah Genealogical and Historical Magazine, 21:145-158, October 1930. 82Typescript copy in author's possession, 7 pp. Cf. also fn. 54, which relates to a 1972 commentary on the question of pre-Adamites. 83"Personal Journal of James Edward Talmage," 29:42, under date of April 7, 1930; cf. also relevant entries under dates of Jan. 2, Jan. 7, Jan. 14, and Jan. 21, 1931, all in volume 29. 84Talmage, J. E., "The Earth and Man," Church News section of the Deseret News, Nov. 21, 1931, pp. 7-8. In pamphlet form it was "Published by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints," 16 pp. The speech has been republished various times, including by Brigham Young University Extension Publications, and was most recently published in the Instructor, 100(12): 474-477, December 1965, and 101(1) :9-n, 15, January 1966. 85Cf. fn. 84. Elder Talmage discusses the matter thusly in his journal, after reviewing the Roberts-Smith episode: Many of our students have inferred from Elder Smith's address that the Church refuses to recognize the findings of science if there be a word in scriptural record in our interpretation of which we find even a seeming conflict with scientific discoveries or deductions, and that therefore the "policy" of the Church is in effect opposed to scientific research. In speaking at the Tabernacle on August 9 last I had not forgotten that in the pronouncement of the First Presidency mentioned under date of April 7 last it was advised and really required that the General Authorities of the Church refrain from discussing in public, that is preaching, the debatable subject of the existence of human kind upon the earth prior to the beginning of Adamic history as recorded in scripture; but, I had been present at a consultation in the course of which the First Presidency had commented somewhat favorably upon the suggestion that sometime, somewhere, something should be said by one or more of us to make plain that the Church does not refuse to recognize the discoveries and demonstrations of science, especially in relation to the subject at issue. President Anthony W. Ivins, of the First Presidency, presided at the Tabernacle meeting, and three members of the Council of the Twelve were present—Elders George F. Richards, Joseph Fielding Smith and Richard R. Lyman. Of course, Elder Smith, and in fact all of us, recognize that my address was in some important respects opposed to his published remarks, but the other brethren named, including President Ivins, expressed their tentative approval of what I had said.
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